Another Response to "The
Uninformed Strike Back"
First off, this is not going to be hate
mail. It may be disagreeing mail and may piss some people
off, but I like to encourage healthy debate.
There is nothing more annoying than people who look
down on DBZ fans. They call us "dubbies" or
the "uninformed". Shall I break this down
A) Dubbies- These are the people who have only seen
the dubbed episodes of DBZ and know nothing of future
episodes or what happens next in the story. This is
a bad thing? I'm sorry, but my idea of enjoying DBZ
is not watching bad fansubs with C+ quality. I admit,
the only episodes of DBZ that I have seen is everything
Cartoon Network has put out, a few episodes of the Android
Saga, a few episodes of the Majin Buu Saga and Movies
7, 8, 9, and 11. Any every episode I watched I utterly
hated. The people were blurry and the dialouge sounded
like total crap. Granted, there probably are better
tapes, but I don't feel like paying money for something
I know will be dubbed soon. Thats like asking me to
rent a movie that will be on HBO in two weeks.
"We know nothing of future episodes or what happens
next in the story." Yeah. So? Do you buy a book,
read the first few chapters then go straight to the
end? Patience is a very magical thing. Nothing ruins
a good story by already knowing how it ends. Hypothetical
scenario- Two people are watching DBZ, Freiza Saga.
One person knows that Goku will continue, Krillin dies
and Goku reaches Super Saiyan (Or Saiya-Jin for you
other people). The other person is a "dubbie"
and knows nothing of what happens next. Frieza has taken
the Genki Dama (Spirit Bomb) and survived. Who will
enjoy the next few episodes the most? The answer will
be the "dubbie", simply because you are on
an emotional rollercoaster. You see Freiza still alive
and your heart races and you wonder "Oh man...Goku
threw his best shot and Freiza took it!". It builds
suspense to unbelievable levels. When you see Krillin
die, your heart drops fifty miles because you know that
Goku might be next. Suddenly he goes ape sh*t nuts,
turns golden and becomes a Super Saiya-Jin!!! He proceeds
to thrash Freiza and all is right with the world. However,
the other person knows that Goku will turn Super Saiya-Jin
before Goku EVEN LEAVES EARTH. Where is the fun in that?!
No suspense, no hype, no excitement. It kills the joy.
Hell, you can even argue the same thing about if Goku
gets off Planet Namek. You know he survives, but how?!
HOW?! If you are the "dubbie" you spend days
in eager anticipation of
discovering the truth. Mr. Know-It-All simply rattles
off the answer with no joy and probably goes to his
tape collection to watch it in Super Bad Quality (SBQ).
Try an argument like this if you want to see my point-
Someone talks about how powerful the Kaioken attack
is. They say nothing can surpass its power. You quickly
inform the person of SSJ. Of course, since they haven't
seen the Freiza Saga, they know nothing of SSJ. You
immidiately dub the person a moron. Think of this- When
DBZ first debuted (I have no idea when...) Japanese
kids watched Vegeta vs. Goku for the first time. Goku
powers up Kaioken and trashes Vegeta. This was BEFORE
Freiza Saga appeared on any t.v. They would immidiately
think, "Wow, Kaioken is the strongest thing ever!"
And this would be true because they didn't know about
SSJ yet. Nobody did. So for a span of months, every
person that watched DBZ on its first run absolutely
KNEW that nothing was more powerful than Kaioken. Suddenly,
they see SSJ. Now every person that watched DBZ on its
first run absolutely KNEW that nothing was more powerful
than SSJ. Then Gohan becomes extremely pissed and hit
SSJ 2. NOW every person that watched DBZ on its first
run absolutely KNEW nothing was more powerful than SSJ
2. You can repeat this little game for SSJ 3 and SSJ
4. Hopefully you see my point by now.
the Japanese kids don't need to be surprised by the Eps. they have
they go from the DB series to DBZ series and were made
years before the first episode of Dragonball
B) The Uninformed- Now I can't stand up for the people
who get things or people wrong, because if they went
through the trouble of bringing it up, then they should
go through the trouble of getting it right. Like momma
used to say, "If you gonna do something right,
do it right the first time." However, don't instantly
condemn these people. If they got it right, big deal.
Correct them and move on. If we educate, then more people
can be enlightened. No one is perfect. And I know these
people because I used to be just like them. I mean,
you see a pic of Goten and you might instantly think
its Gohan if you didn't know any better. Or even if
you did know any better. I have a pic of Goku standing
behind a child that has gone SSJ, and I can't tell if
its Gohan or Goten! Once, I saw a pic of Vegeta and
Miari Trunks in SSJ form. I couldn't tell them apart!
They were both wearing
armor! They both had golden spiked hair. I literally
couldn't tell them apart! So if someone does say the
wrong thing, don't look down on them. Take it easy.
Also keep it mind- Maybe they can't get fansub DBZ.
Maybe they don't have the money to or can't find a reliable
dealer. Chew on that.
Allright........allright....they don't need Fansubs,
they have manga, Info Sites, and DBZ vets.....
This also brings me to the discussion "FUNimation
slaughtered DBZ those evil Nazi homophobic bastards/bitches"
(See, i'm into equality). I love this discussion because
there is so much to cry about!
1) "The voices are horrible" How do you figure
that? Its not the end of the world. I loved Brian Drummond's
(Vegeta's) voice from Season 1 & 2. People cried
over the Internet, "That voice is horrible! That
sounds nothing like Vegeta! He sounds like a wuss!"
The voice was not horrible. And of course he sounds
nothing like Vegeta...maybe its because HE DIDN'T DO
THE ORIGINAL VOICE. And on my personal opinion, he did
not sound like a wuss. But thats my opinion. For some
reason, Goku's voice changed about 50 times during the
seasons... Muten Roshi had a great voice for an old
guy. I don't agree with the Season 3 "Colonel Sanders"
voice. But I have no power or control so too bad.
Yeah Mutenroshi sounds like the KFC guy!
2) "They edit out violence/words/names/sayings
etc." Of course they edit out violence. This is
America. I know that doesn't make much sense, but censors
have more power than anything. And some parents (foolishly)
believe that animated violence is much worse than simulated
violence. But the American culture is MUCH more different
from Japanese culture and we have to
respect that. Hell, BRITISH culture is much more different
than American. In Japan, you can watch King Of The Deathmatch
Wrestling Tournament on primetime tv. In Britain, frontal
nudity of women is perfectly normal. We just have to
Censorship sucks! why are you supporting it?
The names are changed to protect the innocent... :)
The names are changed and everyone pops a gasket. So
what if he went from Rikium to Recoome? Taurus to Turles?
Son Goku to Goku? BIG DEAL.
yes but these names are compleatly retarded and americanized
3) "I HATE THE NEW OPENING THEME SONG!!!"
Never before have I heard so many people complain about
an opening theme. I personally love "Rock The Dragon".
I love it 50 times more than "Head-Cha-La"
or "We Got Power". It
has a cool opening riff and the guitar solos rule. When
I watch "Head-Cha-La", I feel as if I am watching
a TRUE 8-year old's cartoon. "We Got Power"
is good too. "Rock The Dragon" has 7 words.
Big deal. That is not a bad thing. American people have
very short attention spans. We go crazy over catchphrases
and fads. A theme song like "Head-Cha-La"
Got Power" would not go over well because its too
long. On a side note, I like the opening theme for Rurouni
Kenshin (and yes, I DO KNOW that it changes later in
the series, but since I haven't heard the others, I
can't really dispute this love).
Ok, first of all if you're saying Head cha-la is stupid
you are sayin' Dragonball is stupid! Akira Toriama made
both......I don't get what you're saying by that this
is made for an 8-year-old's show.........Rock the Dragon
is compleatly RETARDED! it not only sounds like it was
made for a 9 year old's show but it also sound like
it was made by one. Chala and Zenkai power may not make
sense to you but to the Japanese it's cool because they
understand the song, now I only like this song cause
it sounds great and has a kick ass beat. So don't judge
a song untill you understand it
(I don't understand it so dont ask me!)
It seems as if I am now the new spokesperson of the
uninformed. In fact, I
don't know somethings about DBZ/DBGT that maybe you
"holier than thou
dubbies" people can help me out with!
1) If Radditz was ever brought back (why is that?) and
he trained hard
enough, if he went SSJ, would he automatically go SSJ
3 because of his hair
length? Would his hair grow incredibly short? If not
and he only went SSJ,
then if he went SSJ 2, would his hair grow even longer
than Goku's at SSJ 3?
Nobody likes Raditz he's just their to be a filler for
the saiya-jin saga eps. why would you wish him back?
to kill him again?
2) Allright, what the hell is Vegeta saying? "I'll
just use my (insert name
here) and blow the whole thing up!" Is it Gallet,
Garlic...what the hell is the name of his Gun?!
3) On a similar note, why can't anyone agree on a universal
somebody? Goku/Gokuu/Gokuh? Vegeta/Vegita/Bejeeta? Brolly/Broili/Buroli?
Freeza/Freiza/Freezer? Saiya-Jin/Saiyan? Radditz/Raditz?
The only way I
know how to resolve this is by using the FUNimation
names because they are
the only ones that remain consistent. That would mean
Goku would stay Goku
(not Gokuh or Gokuu), Vegeta would be Vegeta (Not Vegita
or Bejeeta), and
Freiza would remain Freiza (Not Freeza or Freezer).
This all came about
because of fansubs, so its best to stay with the people
who make the show
(FUNimation and Saban).
Cause life sucks
4) Why is it when everyone makes a list of Saiya-Jins
that survived the
Planet Vegeta's destruction no one includes Turles (Taurus)?
We always hear
Goku, Vegeta, Nappa, Radditz, Brolly and Paragus survive,
but never Taurus?
Also, are Goku and Turles related? Tree Of Might does
not give a very good
explaination. "We are both lower class soldiers."
I'm also a college
student, but I don't look like the person that sits
beside me in Physics.
The similarity has to be twins. Is it? Clone maybe?
Just don't say
Why would they clone Gokou, to the saiya jin he's a
low class fighter, they would have cloned Vejiita though
5) Vegeta goes Super Saiya-Jin, but doesn't have a pure
heart. He once
said, "Its pure...PURE EVIL!" Does that apply?
Does the person have to be
pure good? Can they be pure evil and go SSJ? ARGH!
ummm...why do you ask these questions without answers?
6) Why doesn't Raditz get the accolades he deserves?
He is a person in DBZ
that beat the living hell out of BOTH Piccolo and Goku,
then ends up
(inadvertantly) killing Goku! Freiza couldn't kill Goku.
Cell kills Goku,
but only because Goku wants it that way (And I still
believe he could have
teleported out of there in time) and Gohan has to save
I mean, can he get a little bit more respect? He is
called a weakling and
a coward. Not so. He took on Piccolo and Goku head on
and almost won if
Gohan hadn't saved them.
Nobody likes Raditz! so shut up!
7) Why wasn't Raditz ever wished back to life? I'm sure
if Vegeta could
reform than Raditz could too. Also, why does Raditz
lie to Goku by saying
Planet Vegeta was hit by a comet, rather than say Freiza
blew it up? He
knew about it- Vegeta told him and Nappa!
Again......Why would you want to wish back raditz? he SUCKS!
8) Why couldn't Shen Lon destroy the Saiyans? Don't
tell me he can't grant
a wish that exceeds Kami's power! If he can bring people
back from the
dead, he should be able to bump somebody off.
......that is true
9) Are people on DBZ as stupid as they really seem?
Did NOBODY have the
idea to take Dende back to Freiza's ship to heal Goku
so that the battle
might have went differently? He would have still gone
SSJ (If he didn't
kill Freiza before Freiza hit Form 4) and Krillin got
I know and why did Vejiita act so friggin' surprised
when Dodoria told him that the planet was destroyed
by Freezer? in the later eps. He's telling Nappa and
Raditz that Freezer blew it up!! did he forget or something?,
man Funimation is Clumsy as hell!
10) Okay, how in God's name (Or should I say Kami's
name?) does Goku and
Vegeta keep their hair standing? Goku trains in 100
TIMES EARTH'S NORMAL
GRAVITY and his hair stays up. He stays submerged in
water of nearly an
hour and it still stands up! Vegeta trains in 300 TIMES
GRAVITY and his hair still stays straight! What the
Hey they're not human they're Saiya-jin.....it's all
cause of Akiras sick and twisted mind!!!!! (j/k)
11) Does it bother anybody that Vegeta and Bulma never
get married? They
have a kid and Miari Trunks says, "They never got
married...I don't think
mom liked that idea." Did they end up getting married?!
12) Does SSJ 4 even qualify as Super Saiya-Jin? The
hair doesn't turn gold,
their get evil eyes, a tail pops out and they grow red
fur! They also
become insanely powerful. So...is SSJ 1-3 really Super
Saiya-Jin or is SSJ
4 not? Does SSJ 4 make you a legendary Super Saiya-Jin?
I guess not GT sucks anyways so don't worry about
13) What the hell is up with Ultra Super Saiya-Jin?
This is supposedly a
form between SSJ and SSJ 2 that only Miari Trunks and
Wouldn't it stand to reason since it is a new form that
it should be
classified as SSJ 2, bringing the count of SSJ forms
to 5? And its a form
that increases your power but decreases your speed...whatever.
I didn't see
Brolly's speed decrease when he was beating the hell
out of every DBZ
Well Vejiita Actualy also reached USSJ, and ever think that the DBZ
senshi is too slow to beat the crap outa brolly? he's
indestructable! he's never was defeated!.....he became
too powerful too fast, he exploded from so much power,
oh yeah and if you don't like it, complain to Akira
Toriama not to ToT
14) You always hear of Gotenks going SSJ then SSJ 3. Does he hit SSJ
Why does he get to skip it?!
he's so strong when he became gotenks he was strong enough to go SSJ3,
if he wanted he could have gone to SSJ2 but it's the
same with Son gokuh too when he was fighting buu, he
went from SJ to SSJ3
15) Could we come up with a longer name for Cell? Ultra
doesn't seem good enough.
and you tell us to not complain, if Cell is too short for you then
perhaps you'll like to know that his spanish name is
16) Why doesn't Gohan turn SSJ when he is Super Saiyaman?
It would be a lot
easier to conceal his identity with a new hair color
and new eye color.
When he fights the giant demon creature he shoots at
it, but not as SSJ!
17) Gohan is rumored to be the most powerful person
in DBZ..that lasts until
he hits SSJ 2. Why? This is the kid that had a powerlevel
quadrupled his dad's power when he got mad! But he can't
be bothered to go
SSJ 3? School ain't that important. Is Goten and Trunks
as powerful as he
is? They hit SSJ at an early age.
Gohan was strong, very strong but not strong enough
to go SSJ3.....his mom made him study.....he was powerless
under her control, heh
18) Why does Gohan's tail keep growing back? Does it
quit when he gets
older? Is it because he is human/Saiyan? Why doesn't
Trunks have a tail?
Or Goten? How come?!
goten has no tail because he has no anger......trunks
was either too much human (look at his hair!!) or his
tail was cut off to keep him from going oozaroo at an