In Response to a Vegetto EX Editorial
note: The editorial that is being spoken about
can be found here]
of all, lets not beat around the bush. I enjoy Planetnamek.com
and VegettoEX does write very nice articles, however,
this latest article seemed to strike a bit of a sore
spot. I took sometime to formulate responses to VegettoEXs
article. This editorial is done because of the want
and need to express my OWN opinion, not because I went
crying to someone or because I
have a personal score to settle. Well, maybe im
trying to get noticed by the DBZ community, har har.
All quotes are the original, no changes or alterations.
The original article will bedenoted with a > and
italic and my own comments shall be bold normal print.
>And that's not even mentioning the rabid anime fans,
many of whom abhor
>what FUNimation has done to their favorite Japanese
show. So is FUNimation's
Dragonball Z "gay and crappy," as one typically
charming e-mail diatribe states,
or is it "the greatest show ever made for TV,"
reflecting the other extreme
Right after the article gets into speaking of the
fans, we're already all being thrown into a group labeled
as "rabid." We're also all thrown into a group
that refers to everything we disagree with as being
homosexual. A resounding "WAY TO GO!" to all
the idiots that continue to e-mail FUNi saying "ur
gay." If you guys even BEGIN to start on me about
the "idiots" label... just save
yourself the trouble, OK?
There are a lot of you out there that need to start
understanding something. Unless you back up your statements
with actual evidence, you're not going to be taken seriously.
If you're still in school (or even if you're not), pretend
you're writing one of the wonderful persuasive essays
we've all been forced to write and rewrite. You're trying
to persuade the reader of the e-mail that your opinion
is the correct one. By insulting them with poor grammar,
you're not only getting absolutely NO point across,
you're simply taking up time they could put towards
something more constructive. Now, don't think I'm asking
you all to stop sending negative thoughts at FUNi. This
would be a very bad thing. There's never been anything
wrong with (nor will there ever be anything wrong with)
a little constructive criticism, but learn how to do
it in a mature manner. It makes things much easier for
What is wrong with the rabid label? It merely means
that you are dedicated and
concerned about Dragonball Z to the point that you make
a website over it, write articles
for it, criticize it and pay good money for it. Im
a rabid DBZ fan. Its probably in 2nd
place for the thing I spend most money on (Wrestling
is number 1). About the
homosexual thing, I dont quite understand. Maybe
its the wording, but it almost makes
it seem like that VegettoEX is saying that FUNimation
likes to group anyone that that
disagrees with anything FUNimation has ever done is
homosexual and/or has
homosexual tendencies. Maybe I am reading this wrong
or the wording is wrong, please
say that this isnt the way its meant to be interpreted.
An accusation of this sort is no
>Dragonball Z has boasted top ratings in England,
Mexico, France, and Spain
>for years, where uncensored versions of the show
have appeared ever since Toei,
Ltd. -- the animation company often called "The
Walt Disney of the Orient"
-- began producing the show in Japan in 1987.
I thought this was an incredible point to bring up,
and probably one of the best things that was written
in the entire article. This obviously shows that people
in many other nations are perfectly capable of watching
the show as it's intended to be shown, and on television,
nonetheless. Nevermind a video release; these countries
actually get well-dubbed "DragonBall" aired
television! It's sad to think that companies in this
country and our own government thinks so little of us,
that we're not able to experience the program in its
true form, while many other countries have been doing
such for years.
No, this shows that rules are different in other
parts of the world. Germany has a
large stretch of road with no speed limit called the
Autobahn, so does this mean that
Germany has supreme faith in the driving abilities of
their people? Should America drop
the speed limit law? England has televisions shows with
full frontal nudity, should we sit
down and watch that with younger siblings or your own
children? Just because
everyone else does it, doesnt mean
its not the right thing. Mexico...well, I wont
into the stuff that you can do legally in Mexico that
you cant in the U.S. Ive mentioned
this before in another editorial I did and that is other
countries are different than
America. Laws are decided with the best interest of
the people in mind. Censorship is
one of these things. Its sad but that is just the way
things are. And no, our government
doesnt think much of us and our t.v. habits. They
never have. It all boils down to the
fact that mothers run the country and decide what gets
put on t.v. While I am on the
subject, what is the difference between what we see
and the true form? Is it because
they change dialogue? Is it because the nudity is edited
out? Perhaps blood exploding
from peoples mouths are turned down a bit. Do
these things REALLY affect the appeal
and liking of DBZ? Its not as if they change the story
(Frieza is an evil homosexual
trying to gang rape Namek with his Ginyu Force and its
up to the Christian Elite Goku to
stop him). The story is still the same, its just the
delivery is changed. This all goes back
to the Subbie vs. Dubbie argument.
>In short, it is the responsibility of FUNimation
to Americanize a wildly
>popular anime phenomenon -- even if that means deleting
some of the show's more
graphic (and, perhaps, appealing) elements.
Oh, let's not bother mentioning the people with
an IQ over that of a peacock who like the show for something
other than being a "fighting show." There's
nothing appealing about Freezer being chopped up into
three pieces by his own Kienzan. What is appealing is
the fact that despite the fact that he's killed millions
upon millions of helpless people, he's at the mercy
of the one
legendary warrior who's fighting for all that's just.
It's not up to FUNimation to "Americanize"
it. It's up to FUNimation to do a respectable job on
something that's respected everywhere else in the world.
They've got standards (set by every other country) to
live up to, and so far, they haven't even nearly achieved
I dont quite get the Americanizing
of DBZ. This must have been a
phrase tossed in the original newspaper article to say
editing, because I dont see any
evidence of Americanize. No, it isnt
up to FUNimation to do a respectable job on
DBZ. Is their job to get as much merchandise is sold
and make a profit. FUNimation isnt
around for the people, its around for the money. Any
company is like that. What do
they care if there are standards to be met? There are
voices to be dubbed and scenes to
be changed. People will still shell out the cash
and THAT is all that matters in the
end. Not the fans, their opinions or the so-called watering
down of DBZ. In fact, all of
this harkens to a system of organizing people that was
created for wrestling fans. The smarts and the marks.
If you are a shrewd buisnessman, you know what the mark
is already. The mark is someone that pays you money
for the performance, whether it be t-shirts, video tapes,
a ticket or even ratings. The mark enjoys the show for
what it is and never questions it.The smart is the person
that rips the product apart trying to find every
flaw and problem. The sad part is, everyone is a mark.
You can re-word the explanation of a mark but everyone
is STILL A MARK. Alright, maybe you dont buy the
tapes or the
shirts. But do you watch the show? Did you buy a fandub
or fansub? Do you tune into
Cartoon Network and raise the ratings? Even if you dont
spend one penney on DBZ,
you still make it money even if you watch it on t.v.
Your viewing is documented into
ratings. Higher ratings means that Cartoon Network can
charge more for the
advertising during the DBZ program. And I dont
think ReBoot commands the advertising rates that DBZ
>Politically, it's smart; if people start complaining,
you can always blame
>the third-party censors for their decisions.
This just SCREAMS back toward one of the first editorials
I ever posted by someone else, which asked the question
of who's the real scapegoat.
The real scapegoat? Who knows. Might as well try
and find out who killed JFK.
>Also removed for U.S. viewers is spurting, flowing,
or coughed-up blood
>(turns out pools of blood and blood stains are A-OK)
and what is called in the
kid's entertainment biz "imitatable violence"
as opposed to "fantasy violence" --
say, kicking someone in the face vs. destroying a mountain
with energy blasts
from your palms.
America continues to baffle me.
Makes sense to me. Kicking someone in the face is
imitatable violence because
you can actually do that. You can kick someone in the
face, that is physically possible.
Destroying a mountain with an energy blast is fantasy
violence because you
can not blow up a mountain with energy blasts. Little
Johnny can kick Freddie in
the face, but he cant use his Gallick Gun to blow
the whole thing up. The blood thing
baffles me as well, unless they mean that the actually
visual transmission of blood
(spurting, coughing or flowing) is wrong because we
see where it comes from and how it can be
drawn. Pools of blood and blood stains dont show
where it comes from. *shrugs
shoulder* Stupid as that may sound that is probably
the reasoning. Probably the same
reasoning that said a more proper finishing move for
Johnny Cage on the Super Nintendo
version of Mortal Kombat was you cant uppercut
his head off, but you can punch straight through
his chest all day long. Or that Kano cant pull
their heart out, but he is more than
welcome to stab them with his knife. America- Get used
to the confusion. There are 20
million other people with the same lost feeling.
>Watson and Fukunaga defensively use the word "action"
rather than violence,
and both contend Dragonball Z is a "moral"
show with a nerdy hero who says
such things as "That's not playing fair."
I'm sitting here picturing the classic high-school
nerd (glasses, bad hair that sticks up, spasms, lisp)
saying something along the lines of "That's not
playing fair," and throwing
him into "DragonBall Z." What I get is a pain
in my stomach that results in a near-vomit. I really
can't fathom hearing Gokou saysomething like "That's
not playing fair," as a nerd. Gokou's not a nerd,
my dear Watson. The innocence heportrays is the innocence
we all wish we could obtain. This is far from being
"nerd"-y. You're quite obviously interpreting
things a tad too.... WRONG.
What is a nerd? You can classify them by two things-
Looks and Methods.
You are using the Look method, not the Method method.
Method merely says that if
you do something uncool then you are a nerd.
If that is the case, then calling
Goku a nerd is understandable. He is nerd-y
because he is a goody-two-shoes and naive.
Gullible and a sucker. Is that nerdy? If thats how you
look at things. And the Thats
not playing fair line...depends on the delivery.
If he was talking about Frieza sneak
attacking him then it might be funny. Dont know
though. Yes, we all wish we could be
innocent. But the way you are interpreting things is
WAY TOO WRONG.
Since we are on the subject, why does everyone consider
Goku to be
innocent? There is a difference between innocence and
being naive or gullible. If the
Goku knows what to do to have 2 kids, help kill his
own brother (evil as he may
be) and kill King Kai or Kaio-sama with an exploding
Cell (even though he had no
other choice), then is Goku still innocent and pure?
Lets not get too confused
and start throwing around the innocent label.
>Watson insists those fans who think FUNimation heavily
sanitizes the show
guided by a mistaken impression from so-called fansubs
and fandubs --
unauthorized copies of the show dubbed or subtitled
illegally and available
on the Internet and in anime stores. (There are two
such retail outlets in
Mario said it best. "Here we goooooooooooo!"
First of all, let us place the blame on Anime Labs.
This isn't our fault, it's not TOEI's fault. It's the
a bunch of MORONS who decided to have Vegeta say "You
fucking blew up my
house!" in DBZ movie
thirteen ("Ryu Ken Bakuhatsu! Gokou Ga Yaranakaya
Dare Ga Yaru?"). There ARE
the few of us that
realize the dialogue in "DragonBall" does
not consist of many
four-letter-words. The people who don't
realize this are the people who find fansubs to be gospel.
I've got news for
you, guys... fansubs are great
(before a show is commercially picked up), but there's
very few fansubbers
who don't let a few things get in
there. Vegeta doesn't say "fuck." That's all
there is to it. I know that,
and I know lots of other people who
know it. To throw every single person who's seen a fansub
into this group is
an absolute atrocity. In fact,
every person who truly understands fansubs knows for
a fact that the
dialogue is VERY loosely translated.
It's the occasional watcher who's getting "D"
quality subs off of eBay that
does not realize this. It's for
these people that we need to get a decent version being
shown so that they
can finally understand where
people like myself are coming from.
We know what the dialogue is supposed to be like. How
about getting it like
that, big guys? You can rant all
you want about cutting out the curses from fansubs (which,
by the way, I
agree with; I'm still wondering
how you managed to get Dende to say "Don't piss
off the God of Love!" on a
children's show when the
Namek-sei-jin child never said anything remotely like
this in the original
Japanese dialogue; you continue
to astound me).
I perfer Monty Pythons approach. And
off we go again.
Watson insisted on the fans that think FUNimation heavily
edit the show. Of course.
How else would they know what the original was like
if they hadnt seen
fansubs or fandubs? And since when Watson say that everyone
whose seen a fansub is a
person who finds the fansub gospel? He didnt say
it, you did. About the translation-
Of course it is very loose. How many words in the English
language can mean the same thing?
However, if they didnt throw a cussword in it,
then someone else was bound
to. Maybe Vegeta does say F*ck. You criticize
FUNimation for the corny new
dialogue, but what sounds cool, You
friggin blew up my house! or You f*cking
blew up my
house! Me, I dont care. Id probably
insert my own words instead. Then you go
and say that you know what the dialogue is supposed
to be like. I dont think anyone
REALLY knew what it was supposed to be like except for
the creator of the show. Now
about the God of Love thing...I have no idea at all.
None. Maybe it was Bring Crack To
Work Day or something.
>The hard-core fans often insert English profanity
in places where the
translation could go either way. For instance, if Gohan,
hero, screws up and utters an expletive, it could "correctly"
"Oh, fudge!" or "Oh, fuck!"
I reiterate the fact that it's absurd to say "fans,"
here. It's the
idiotic fansubbers who have a child say
"fuck" that's the problem.
Absurd to say fans? These people took
time and equipment to put out
these tapes...I think that qualifies as being a fan.
What more do they have to do?
>Message boards and Web sites all across the Internet
were creaking under
weight of outrage when FUNimation changed the word "HELL"
written across the
chest of three demon brothers to "HFIL." What
the hell is HFIL? It's short
"Home For Infinite Losers," a tyke-friendly
version of eternal damnation.
If it wasn't such a stupid idea, we wouldn't be complaining.
would it have just been easier to
simply paint over the entire word "HELL" on
the two characters, but you
would have saved yourself from
creating one of the two largest sources of mockery we
have for you people
(the second being the whole
"next dimension" concept).
Paint over the word HELL? But I thought
t-shirts with words were trendy. I see
nothing wrong with the name Home For Infinite
Losers. But when Goku first
lands there, did you immidiately think, Wow! Hes
in Hell now! Did Hell look
like Hell? Depends on which religion you feel like following
today. I have no idea
about the Japanese belief of Hell. I think their belief
of Hell is a similar belief,
like the Catholic Purgatory, which is that you dont
burn for eternity, just for a while until
you soul is cleansed and you can enter Heaven. Not the
exact same thing, but almost.
Instead, the soul is reincarnacted. I had more of a
problem with HELL than I did with
HFIL. In my belief, Hell is filled with
demons, fire and brimstone. So maybe
FUNimation changed the name from HELL because
it didnt represent the popular
Christian Hell, but rather a different place, hence
the Home For Infinite Losers.
While on the subject, what is wrong with the next
Isnt Death considered another dimension? In fact,
with the wording next dimension it
would lead to belief that they dont die, per se,
but rather go onto another level for
And if good, they go onto the next dimension
of Heaven and if bad
then they go to Hell, get the soul cleaned up then reincarnated.
Next dimension works
>"Dragonball Z is filled with characters
named Mr. Satan and references to
and devils," he says. "The show has its own
mythology that's very
God forbid (HAH! I made a funny!) you bring a little
There is a reason why this little bit of culture would
flop. You seem to
forget that the majority of America is a Christian-based
religion. If you start bringing
over a religious hierarchy of demons and gods then you
are just begging for trouble. I mean,
the name Mr. Satan is crying out for mothers to ban
the show. Lets not even start on
the crowd chanting SATAN, SATAN, SATAN!.
Yeah, thatll fly with a lot of people
here. Not everyone is open-minded.
>It seems Dragonball Z fans are so passionate, they
don't just criticize
FUNimation edits -- they criticize how they edit.
They placed a rock in front of Gohan's foot one time.
Toes are now
considered nudity. They painted
over a sign (written in Japanese, mind you) that read
"Occupied" on a
bathroom door. Foreign symbols =
evil. Explain, please.
Placed a rock in front of Gohans foot? I dont
remember this edit. And
if they did add a rock then who cares? Is the
rock that covers nothing that
important? They painted over the Occupied
sign. Sure they did. It was written in
Japanese. Foreign symbols = Non-English/Non-Understandable.
The normal American viewer
wouldnt know what the word was, so they miss nothing.
I sure didnt miss it. And
werent you calling for the painting over the word
HELL a second ago?
>"I'd get an e-mail from some 14-year-old saying,
'That guy sucks dicks. I
do a better job repainting Gohan with my Commodore 64,'"
Byron recalls. "I
take it personally anymore, but when you first start
getting that shit, man,
I can actually relate to this. Unfortunately, a lot
of the edits that
have been done were downright
stupid. That's not our fault. I'm not saying the insults
(they're not), but there's no way we can
get around thinking something like that when we see
the color of a drink has
been changed so-as not to
infer that someone's drinking a beer (Old man? Beer?
Now this is something I can partially agree with.
We have all seen someone drink
beer and we know what it is. But this falls under the
catagory If its seen
on t.v., then the kids want to emulate it. If
kids see a man drinking beer then they might
want beer too. Although my first beer made me not want
to drink anymore.
>"The rhythm part wasn't difficult for me,"
says John Freeman of Denton
band Dooms U.K., who played supervillain Vinegar --
"a big purple killing
with Viking horns" who was destroyed after about
There's a man from an art-rock band named "Dooms
U.K." doing a voice in
"DragonBall Z." Shoot me
now. While we're at it, can someone tell me what the
heck "art-rock" is
supposed to be? Is it simply one of
those rip-off genres? If so, I'd like to smash your
How does being in an art-rock band affect your voice?
Does the simple
fact that him being in Dooms U.K. mean that
his voice is not the right one? Give the
guy some slack. No one is perfect. As for art-rock,
I have no idea. Give me good
old hard rock and heavy metal anyday.
>(John Freeman - ) "But I had a blast. I hope
I get to tour all the fantasy
conventions and sign autographs."
Don't get your hopes up, bub.
Everybody has dreams. It could happen.
>The new vocal talent are stage actors, standup comics,
mothers from Denton, Fort Worth, and Dallas whom FUNimation
Chris Sabat enlists for characters both major and minor.
He actually does
20 different characters and is the only on-staff voice
talent for the show.
insists he was instrumental in convincing Barry Watson
and FUNimation that
the vocal chops they required could be found in the
surrounding area. They
began recording Texas voices in February 1999, and those
Z's third season and its first post-Saban episodes with
the Cartoon Network,
began airing last September.
This is where we start having a problem. You can
say we complain that the
voices were changed. You're
full of crap. Sabat's doing twenty voices. This is wrong.
These people aren't professional voice actors. What
the Hell are they doing
voice acting, then? Is it
because you can pay them less? Is it because they were
the only ones around?
I was E-mailed by Ian Corlett (original dub VA for Gokou;
Ocean Studios) a
few months back. He seemed
more than interested in me telling you guys ("you"
referring to FUNimation)
how I feel about the voices.
He did the same with Chris Psaros. Do I smell a hint
coming from the God of
American voice acting? I
would give up drinking soda to have Mr. Corlett return.
He's got experience,
he's got talent, and more
importantly, he knows. Knows what? Pick something. I'm
sure he knows more
about it than the mother who
Whats wrong with the voice actors jobs? Adolf
Hitler painted houses
before he nearly conquered all of Europe. Granted, they
probably dont have any place
doing voice acting, but maybe JUST MAYBE they have talent
and may be good! Now if my
mother did the voice of Frieza, id sh*t my pants
everytime he issued a threat.
>This background fuels his determination to look
for talent, not
of the performers they've used had never done this type
of work before.
In other words, he's looking for people he can pay
the lowest wage, and
will still bake him cookies and
yell into a microphone all the absurd comments ("Whatever
turns you on, big
boy" - Freezer to Gokou,
dub) he tells them to. Experience? Knowledge of the
We all now know that the reason Ian Corlett left the
show was not because of
"other commitments" ; he left
because he was being poorly treated, and was not being
paid enough. Mr.
Corlett knew for a fact he could
do better elsewhere. Ian, once again, I've gotta say
it - while I was at
first ticked you left the show, I can
completely understand why you did it, and have even
more respect for you now
than I did before.
You hit the nail right between the eyes. Of course
he is looking for
people with the lowest wage. Duh! This is a business
and any way to cut cost without
SERIOUSLY damaging the product is what they will do.
And sometimes they will
seriously damage the product. As for the absurd comments,
well, we all have said stupid things in our life,
havent we? And your opinion is just that- Your
opinion, not a fact. As for Ian, unless he
flat out says why he left, we have no room for saying
why he left. Ever seen the Bad
News Bears? Good piece of advice- AssUMe
makes an Ass of U and Me.
>I think the Japanese have more tolerance in general
for bad dubbing than
Americans do," Sabat explains of his oft-repetitious
I dunno. The fanboys here have put up with a lot
of garbage you produced
and still love it (Kami-sama
only knows why; maybe they haven't yet learned that
it's OK to be critical
of what you watch, and it's OK to
demand quality). What incredible irony.
Or maybe its because they are grateful for what they
have and dont want to sound
like whiners just because they dont like the dubbing.
Fanboys have put up
with a lot of garbage? Not really, its just that we
like what we hear because we have no
other basis. Example- A real big rage recently was when
Pearl Jam did a cover of the song
Last Kiss. People thought that song was
awesome. But when they heard the
original 1950s version, they hated it. Same as
with Aerosmith/Beatles with Come Together
and The Guess Who/Lenny Kravitz with American
Woman. Maybe they arent critical
of what they watch because they like it just fine and
they dont want or need higher
quality because they are satisfied.
>There are three kinds of disgruntled Dragonball
Z fans -- those purists who
FUNimation because of the changes they make to the show
for American TV;
those who hate FUNimation for changing the voices in
its third season; and
who hate how long it takes the company to dub, mix,
edit, and score the new,
That pretty much covers it.
>Right now, the Fort Worth FUNimation offices get
thousands of e-mails a day; workers divide the messages
into "Good Feedback"
and "Bad Feedback." Certainly, there is plenty
of effusive praise from what
to be mostly 12- to 17-year-old males -- lots of misspelled
things like, "You guys are the best thing to happen
to television since
watch the show every day. Its [sic] like a religious
custom and im [sic] a
This has nothing to do with FUNimation. This has
everything to do with
you guys. Read on; I go into
Yeah, lets read on.
>Much of the "Bad Feedback" can be chalked
up to the frustration fans
experience at coming to the end of one saga, then having
to wade through
of reruns (specifically, the first 53, Saban-diluted
episodes, which now
appear on Cartoon Network) to get to a new one. Then,
there are the one-line
flames -- "You whores!" and "Frieza is
a lez" -- from fans who simply can't
stomach the edits and the new voices. Snowballing in
length and intensity
e-mails that read, "You people suck! You should
change your name to
FUCKthenation! I hope you people rot in the deepest,
[sic] of hell!" to an articulate 15-page complaint
about the new American
(recorded in North Dallas) and a comparison of the Canadian
voices and the
Texas voices. Watson does not know how this viewer managed
to ascertain who
does what character, since actor and character names
are not matched in the
You morons (again, don't even start with me). I can
still remember seeing
the massive amount of posts
on AOL message boards trying to start up a petition
SuX!!!!~~" to send in to them.
Do you guys really think this is going to accomplish
anything? Look at me,
for example. If you try and start
that nonsense with me, I post it, and let everyone laugh
at your immaturity.
IN FACT, it's YOUR fault that
FUNimation does produce the show they way they do. You've
mature enough to handle the
show in its original fashion.
Then again, FUNimation did a little gender-bending with
Freezer that I can't
imagine anyone in their
normal state of mind being content with.
As for the 15 page complaint.... I'm looking at Chris
Psaros. I'm probably
wrong, but it's something he'd do
Well I can accept the gender-bending thing. I mean,
when Frieza was in
his 1st form, what real villian laughs by saying Ho
ho ho with a girlish glee? And the
fact that Frieza has thick, colored lips doesnt
help matters much. When I saw Frieza
on a fansub I couldnt tell if he was male or female.
>But he notes that FUNimation is about to expand
into the anime-snob market
releasing the unedited Japanese series with English
subtitles on DVD.
This is where you cross the line, Mr. Sabat. I've
really had enough. You
are someone who does twenty
voices (none of which, by the way, have any emotion
behind them.... you
might want to work on that), lets a
librarian do a voice, and then have the nerve to call
the people who KNOW
We're not asking for much. We're asking for a semi-respectable
of right now, the dub is far
from being such. Your voices are terrible ("Grrrr.......
grrrrrrrr...... ugh..... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr......."),
the music is less
inspired than that on my Casio keyboard I
received for Christmas a decade ago, and the scripts
are absurd (once again,
I bring, "Whatever turns you
on, big boy" and "I eat really healthy foods!"
into the light).
When we said we could do a better job with the musical
score on our own
keyboard, that didn't infer that
we wanted you guys to go out, get a few $10 keyboards,
and compose some
"music" all based around the
exact same guitar riff (it's "Rock the Dragon"
all over again; only worse).
We're asking for something we can show to people, have
them watch on TV, and
have them understand
where we're coming from.
Unfortunately, all we get are the constant "Pokemon"
and WWF analogies.
First off, he didnt insult you. He did not
say, The anime-snob market
that is full of DBZ fans that have seen the fansubs
and fandubs and know the story. What
he meant (by context) was that he was expanding into
a market full of people that
think they can run everything 50-times better, despite
having no prior experience and
believe that they can make all the episodes with a small
budget. When you run around saying
that you can create more inspired music on your Casio
keyboard, then hell yeah, people
will call you a snob. The scripts ARE NOT ABSURD, just
the means. The end is the same, its
just a different way of doing it. And what is absurd
about saying I eat really
healthy foods!? It shows that Goku actually cares
about his body and that maybe, JUST MAYBE,
that he maintains his incredible power due to a great
training regimen and proper
eating habits. I mean, look at Guldo after he went on
that all chiliburger diet...^_^ Its
not simple to just come out and create music. As ive
said before, I loved Rock the Dragon
because it was fairly intense and got you pumped for
the show. and I like the new one.
By the way, did anyone else think they had found an
animated version of Pulp Fiction
when they first heard Rock The Dragon? I
liked Head-Cha-La, Zenkai Power
We Were Angels. If you dont like it,
hit mute or fast forward or just leave the
room. The new opening theme is not all that bad, GET
OVER IT ALREADY. And the voices?
HA! DBZ, in-between dialogue, is nothing but a bunch
of people grunting, moaning
or straining. They are either distressed, raising their
punching, surprised, exasparated...Grrrr.....Grrrr....Grrr....,
you dont have to be a god of
voice acting to be able to make that kind of noise.
Hmmm...Goku 3:16- I just KameHameHaed your
ass! or Time for me to go
Super Saiya-Jin on your roodypoo candyass! does
have a nice ring to it. Pokemon?
Genki...Genki....Genki...DAMA! Nah, not
as catchy. I like analogies. Dont knock
>"I need a bloodcurdling scream," Barry
Watson says, sticking his head in
small FUNimation recording room. "I mean, a really
You got one when I popped in the "Captain Ginyu:
Assault" video for the
first time. I was really sick
with the flu at the time, too, but I let it out. You
guys probably heard me
all the way from Pennsylvania
when I let it out.
Smart view- See above.
Mark view- When I popped in Captain Ginyu: Assault
I screamed, KICK HIS ASS
GOKU!!! That is what DBZ is supposed to be about.
Cheering for the hero
and booing the villian, not complaining about the music
and why they sound so crappy.
Try and enjoy the show, not pick it apart. Its hard,
believe me I know that more
than anyone, but if you allow yourself to go with it,
youll love to learn the dub. And you
might as well, because dubs are coming whether you like
it or not. Love it or lump it.
As always, I invite comments, criticisms and rebuttals.
DBZ does live on,
but what is life
The Super Texa-Jin,
Jonathan Underfaker Lindsey